1. Voice in poetry. Answer the following
question. (Blog)
2. Turn in the following assignment: (Blog)
3. Read about E.E Cummings here:
4. Choose one of Cumming´s poems here:
poem: tone, voice, theme. (to my email)
voice in poetry: the author is the one who is speaking. According to the following paragraph: " I wake this morning in the heaviness of flesh to the throb of a mourning dove and the wood thruth with its premonitions of beauty" here it is seen how the author assumes a particular role.
ReplyDeleteRicardo Aguilar
The tone in this poem is angry because the speaker reponds with lots of admiration marks and this character wants to get the things done before making the monthly payment , so it is understandable before paying any service to have the service itself in good condition. Ricardo Aguilar
ReplyDeleteThe mood in this poem is ansious according to this paragraph: " the sink is broke
ReplyDeleteThe water don’t run, and you ain’t done a thing you promised to’ve done." here the speaker is angry with the service and wants to get the things done, so this makes me feel that the speaker is ansious about it.
Ricardo Aguilar
Be careful with your spelling. Anxious. He is anxious about what?
DeletePoetic Voice: In the last assigment the teacher pointed out in one of the answers I gave that the author is not neccesarrely the person who speaks. Now it makes more sense to me, Why? Well, because in the poems waht we finf in most of the times is an unknown or faked mask due to we really do not have any idea who is speaking, we just see the worsd with in the poem and the understandinf of the poem itself changes, so it demonstrates that the intention of the poem varies from one to another; no matter who speaks.
ReplyDeleteBe careful with spelling.
DeleteBut that the poet is not the speaker does not imply that we do not know or at least can gat an idea of who he, she, it is.
Tone: As it was explained in the slides, tone is the attitude towards the subject, the audience, among others. In this case, this poem shows a type of discussion, typical situation when a person who rents a house is uncomfortable with the house is living in. On the other hand, the man who is the agent tries to fix up the issue, however it does not work that much, so I might say the tone is ironic in somehowe, bit also angry. For instance, form line 9 up to seven: I said, Listen
ReplyDeleteBefore I’d pay
I’d go to Hades
And rot away!
Then, from line 22 up to 25: He said, Madam,
It’s not up to me.
I’m just the agent,
Don’t you see?
So, how would you describe the tone? Confrontational?
DeleteMood: It is understood as the way the Reader feels when reading. The perceptions changes from an individual to another is not the same, therefore amny times it is complicated to agree with someone because the opinions just do not match. I personally felt frustrated and also I should have regreted of having that house as my fireside. For example, from line 11 uo 17: The sink is broke,
ReplyDeleteThe water don’t run,
And you ain’t done a
thing
You promised to’ve
done.
So, the mood of the poem is?
DeletePoetic Voice
ReplyDeleteThe author is the one that speaks since the author mentions different life situations where he/she is the one involved. For example “in the first October of my seventh decade “or “I wake this morning in the heaviness of flesh”.
Tone:
When we speak, depending on the attitude we have at the moment, our tone of voice changes and people will realize what is our intention or our attitude. Regarding poetry, we can say that tone is what helps expressing a particular emotional meaning to the writing toward the subject, characters, or audience. From the following phrase "The sink is broke, The water don’t run, And you ain’t done a thing" (Madam and the Rent Man by Langston Hughes), that phrase expresses an informal, angry, and serious tone since the madam is not happy with the rent man that is charging the rent because she has an inconformity with the bad condition of the house. The tone plays an important role since we get a better sense of the writing and it also contributes to the mood when reading.
Mood:
Mood is defined as the emotions the reader feels while reading. From the following example: "I said, What Can I do for you? He said, You know Your rent is due" (Madam and the Rent Man by Langston Hughes), those questions and answers catch the attention of the reader and the mood of the reader changes because there is an impression, and the reader compares that reaction with similar life situation experienced. Mood can make a person feel happy, sad, angry, positive, or joyful when reading, but that depends on the way the reader identifies him- or herself with the description, or events presented in the writing. Mood helps involving the reader in the writing and makes the reader interested in continuing reading, that is why there are some poems where the main purpose is to set mood.
Yes, good summary.
DeleteVoice in Poetry: poetic voice is the sound, style, manner, and tone of a poet (Nesdoly, 2009). Likewise, voice is how the poet expresses his or her personality in a poem (Utley). Also, it is the way the poet perceives the world. “The voice in the poem can be the voice of the poet, voice of an imaginary person, voice of a personified object, or voice of an abstraction. In the same way, the voice of the speaker can be lively, inspiring, engaging, emotional, and interesting. The recognizable or distinctive voice is the writer's characteristic style in writing. Voices in poetry can be created in a variety of ways. A poet chooses voice or voices for a particular poem to engage the reader's interest or reveal his or her attitude toward the subject. So, a poet chooses a voice for his particular poem and imagines some kind of audience for his or her voice. Frances Mayes describes different voices that poets use to connect to the reader: the personal "I" voice, the public voice, and the invisible voice”. (Utley).
ReplyDeleteIn the poem “The Way Things Are” Linda Pastan uses the personal “I” voice. Utley remarks that “the personal "I" voice allows the reader to respond to a direct personal expression or experience in the poem. The reader feels closer to the voice”. For instance, when Pastan writes “in the first October of my seventh decade” she is using the possessive pronoun “my”. Also, when she writes “I wake this morning in the heaviness of flesh”, she is using the personal voice. In this manner, the readers may connect their memories to the poem when Pastan describes how things around her were. For example, in this line: “when the leaves make their metaphysical journey from one form to another on tides of air”. Also, the readers may respond to the poem when Pastan describes her feelings. For instance, “the answer to every question is smoke”, it represents confusion in the speaker´s voice. The same feeling is represented in these lines “I wake this morning in the heaviness of flesh to throb of a mourning dove. Finally, the voice engages an emotion that things in the past were easier.
Tone: According to the material the professor posted on the literature II blog, “tone is the writer´s attitude towards the characters, subject, or audience. It may be informal, intimate, playful, angry, serious, ironic, tender, serene, depressed, etc”. Langston Hughes uses three kinds of tone in this poem. The first one is an angry tone. For example, in the lines that Madam says “I said listen, before I´d pay, I´d go to Hades and rot away!” She is insulting the man because he is asking her for the payment. Second, this poem has a mad tone when Madam complies about the unsatisfied promises she got by the owner of the place. It is reflected in these lines, “the sink is broke, the water don´t run, and you ain´t done a thing, you promised to´ve done. Then, this poem also evidence a sarcastic tone when Hughes writes “He said, Madam, I ain´t pleased! I said, Neither am I. So we agrees”. This is sarcastic because they said they agree. However, they do not agree in the main point that is the rent.
Mood: According to the material the professor provided to Literature II class, “mood is the emotions the reader feels while reading a poem. Therefore, literature makes the reader feels happy, angry, joyful, etc. So, the main purpose for some poems is to set a mood. “Madam and the Rent Man” sets a cheerful mood. Hughes gets the reader´s attention by the way Madam denies about paying the rent, and the way the rent man charges it to her. It could be said that it is funny. In the same manner, the poem has a musical rhythm that makes it attractive, and it engages the reader because it is easier to read the poem.
Good ideas and understanding of the concepts. Thanks for your effort.
DeleteVoice in poetry: i would say that the author is the one who speaks bwcause there is no way to determine if it is somebody else that is narrating that, so the author is the one who is leading and expressing his ideas throughout the poem.
ReplyDeleteTone: On the poem, there was a problem between the landlord and the Madam, the messenger is involve too because is giving the message, so the tone of the poem is kind of stressed with a little bit of anger and a little bit of confrontation.
Mood: what the poem transmits is a sense of desperation from the Madam because she has to pay even though the place is a messed, and the landlord has promise to fix it and nothing has been changed.
Watch out for spelling: mess, promised
DeleteAs the slide shows, the tone is the writer´s attitude towards a subject, character or audience, in the poem Madam and the Rent Man, the writer assumes the mask a lady who is visited by the landlord. The tone is directly link to the other character, the landlord. The lady is apathetic towards the lord because he appears to get the rent paid "you know your rent is due" but she will not pay until some problems with the place are fixed (the sink, the window etc) also she seems to be irritated because the landlord had promised to get them fixed, but he has not do it "And you ain’t done a thing, You promised to´ve done."
ReplyDeleteThe mood that the author awakes on me is the a feeling of empathy towards the lady, she is leaving in a poor house that is falling apart, and she still needs to pay for it; consequently the same apathy that the lady shows, is the same that we can feel towards the landlord, I can feel somehow frustrated because she has to confront a person who is only there to be paid but she has a lot of needs that issues with the house.
So, what word would describe the tone?
Delete1. Poetic Voice: Many things, feelings, situations, points of view, opinions about a variety of themes can be expressed through literature and any of its forms like a poem. I believe that the author, as well as the words in a poem, becomes a mean used to express something. Consequently, he (the author) is not the one speaking (unless this is intended). As the explanation determines, the poetic voice is a mask. The author might be the one writing the poem, but he/she is wearing a mask (could be an animal, object, feeling), and all of the sudden it is not him/her anymore, but this new persona speaking through him/her. In addition, some poetic voices are easy to spot within a poem while in other cases it is really hard to guess. Therefore, we can conclude that the speaker is not always expressed in the poem, yet based on the chosen words the reader may infer who the speaker of the poem is.
ReplyDelete2. Tone: In Langston Hughes’ poem (Madam and the Rent Man) the tone is mainly informal. Both of the characters use day-to-day vocabulary and slang; for instance, in the very first stanza the following line is found: “He said, Howdy-do?” The word howdy is a common slang-word that based on the Marriam-Webstern online dictionary it is “used as an informal greeting.” Moreover, on second and sixth stanzas, phrases such as “I’d go to Hades And rot away!” and “You pass the buck.” show certain level of confidence that informality provides. Besides, the continuing use of contractions shows lack of formality: ain’t,. I’d, to’ve, just to mention some.
3. Mood: As I read this poem, a smile was drawn on my face. I felt comfortable and I could not help feel amused. The mood in this poem would be playful. Likewise, the vocabulary choice is smart and fun which perfectly fits with the tone. As well as in the previous explanation for tone, second stanza shows this playful and fun mood: “I said, Listen Before I’d pay I’d go to Hades And rot away!” Moreover, the very last line: “So we agrees!” demonstrates (in a very fun way) how they finally agreed on something, and that made the reader (in this case me) smile and be diverted.
That the poet was able to create a response in you shows how poetry works at the level of emotions.
DeletePoetic Voice: The author is the one who writes the poems; the poetic voice is just the protagonist (soul inside the poem) who tells us a wonderful story. Sometimes we have many faces. We are not the same when we are with our friends, family, co-workers, classmates…. Consequently every single poem is a mask or opportunity, for an author to express his/her feelings.
ReplyDeleteTone: The tone will be Confrontational:
“I said, Listen
Before I’d pay
I’d go to Hades
And rot away!”
This poem shows a conversational between a lady and the rent man. In addition we can see that the lady is not happy at all with the service that’s why she doesn’t want to pay the rent because she is not pleased.
Mood: When I read the poem I thought it was funny because this is a real life story. Sarcasm makes me laugh and at the end of the poem we can see that both the lady is not happy with her house and the rent man is not happy with his job. “He said, Madam. I ain’t pleased! I said, Neither am I."
Say which poem it is.
DeleteMelissa Jinesta
ReplyDelete1-The poetic voice in a poem can be not only the author, but also any animate or inanimate stuff that has the possibility to express a great amount of ideas, feelings, or thoughts through the lines of the poem written by the author. In the poem “The way things are”, written by Linda Pastan, the author represents the poetic voice. This is clear in lines 5 and 18 where she expresses: “in the first October of my seventh decade,” and “I wake this morning…” She uses “my”, and “I” to reflect the possession of her words as a personal feeling.
2-The tone refers to the attitude that the author shows in the poem. In other words, it is what he or she desires to transmit involving different feelings. For instance, in this poem “Madame and the rent man”, written by Langston Hughes, the madame is kind of annoyed because of the situation with the house she is renting. Many things need to be fixed, and she doesn’t get a response, but the rent man is very punctual.
On the other hand, the mood involves the feelings transmitted from the author to the audience through the poem. This poem makes me feel desapointed! When I think about the things that work not so good in our society. For instance when the lessee doesn’t fix his houses for rent, when the company’s owners don’t pay to their employees the amount of money they have to, or the other way around, when the government employees don’t work the way they must work to really deserve their salaries.
Poetic voice:
ReplyDeletePoetic voice is the way in which the author’s style is represented. Where the quality of his/her writing makes it different to others authors through their feelings, personality, thoughts, and experiences (Wiehardt,2014). Also, an author uses the poetic voice refers to a different person” You can use the first person “I” to speak in the poem. You can also use the invented “I” to narrate a poem. This is a persona—it is an imaginary voice. The persona or voice of a poem can be first person “I”, second person “you”, the third person “he or she”, or the public person (large audience, like society). (Hood, 2010). An example what poetic voice is in the poem “The Way Things Are”” in the first October of my seventh decade, a month when colors run together. Or “I wake this morning in the heaviness of flesh”
Tone:
Tone means the author’s attitude toward subject and readers. In other words, the tone represents the way that we speak and how other people recognize our purposes and feelings. It can represent intimate for example in the following expression” “He said, You know, Your rent is due”( Madam and the Rent Man by Langston Hughes). Through this phrase, we can see how the tone used by the agent gives Madam that he wants her to pay. Another example of angry tone “Back window’s cracked, Kitchen floor squeaks, there’s rats in the cellar, And the attic leaks”. Through these words we realized that Madam is angry about her house’s conditions, her tone helps to understand that she doesn`t want to pay the rent. As a conclusion, when we writing the tone through our words help to clarify our intention of message.
Mood:
Mood means the emotions the READER feels while reading. When we read the poem “Madam and the rent” it can make feel like sad, angry, impressed, thoughtful about what Madam has to face about the rent, if she doesn`t pay, she will move out or how the agent doesn`t care about the Madam’s house conditions and at the end, the money is the most important thing” I said, Naturally, You pass the buck. If it’s money you want”. But also, this poem helps us to understand many situations that many people daily live. But it is what the mood in poetry tries to do to catch the people’s attention.
Poetic voive: The author gets involved in the poem. He becomes parts of the poem, so he can express more the feelings that the reader is going to get. It is the voice that tells us the poem; it does not mean that the author and the voice are the same. On this poem the author explains the last years expressing the with emotions and descriptions.
ReplyDeleteTone: the language that the author uses to emphasize the poem. It can be formal and informal. The way the author uses to get the message. In this poem we can see the variety of contexts. The author wrote it with formal and informal vocabulary.
He said, Howdy-do?.... Informal
He said, Madam,…. Formal
Mood: it means what the reader feels when reading the poem. There are many feelings that the reader can get from it such as, sadness, happiness, depression, and so on. This poem gave me the feeling of empathy because it was reflected the unfairness. How can a person pay for something that is not good at all?
“Back window’s cracked”, “The sink is broke”.
1- In the way things are poem, the same author is the one speaking. There is no other character that could be related to the narration process and the author uses "I", "my", and "me" in the poem.
ReplyDelete2- Tone: In the poem Madam and the Rent Man by Langston Hughes, the tone of the author towards the Rent Man, who represents injustice, is a combination of frustration and anger product of common human behavior. First, frustration is evident when we read how she has to pay punctually to the Rent Man. However, the Rent Man doesn’t honor his duties as a man in charge of the infrastructure of the house. Now, this is not an excuse for him to charge her every month the rent. This can be read here as follows “The sink is broke, the water don’t run, and you ain’t done a thing You promised to’ve done.” Here, we can see how the Rent Man makes promises he never fulfills, feeding the woman’s frustration. Also, we can see how mad she is at the man as she refuses to pay him. In the lines: “I said, Listen. Before I’d pay, I’d go to Hades and rot away!” It is obvious that she would prefer to be doomed rather than to continue dealing with such a despicable person. And she is not to blame, because the Rent Man can be a metaphor of the politician who lies, or the priest who accuses us of sins committed by himself.
Mood: The poem makes me feel good because she stands for herself and fights her own battles. However, she shouldn’t have waited so long to stand up and fight. In the case of the Rent Man, I think there is an idiomatic expression for this kind of people in Spanish: “tras de que debe, cobra”. It sums up what the poem makes me feel about him. A dreadful, greedy person who only cares for himself. If I had to put it in a word, I'd say antipathetic.
Poetry Voice : In a poem , the poetry voice is not only the author . It could be any other subject such as: animals , things , feelings or other people. In some cases the speaker of the poem could be unknown or it may be hidden behind a mask that help the poet to express his o her feelings , ideas or beliefs.
ReplyDeleteTONE : Most of the the time the tone of our voice changes depending on the attitude that we hce in one point ot the day. The same thing can happen with the tone when a poem is written.As it is explain in the docuement studied the tone is the attitude that author have toward the subject , characters or audience. For example in the poem of Langston Hughes "Madam on the Rent Man" is possible to observe the tone of disappointment and anger about the situation that she was living inside that place because many things have to be changed or fiixed , but the Rent Man did not help her. A clear example of that is shown from the line 12 to the 17
" The sink is broke ,The water don’t run, And you ain’t done a
thing ,You promised to’ve done."
MOOD: It is the way how the reader feel while she or he reads and analyzes a poem . That people is able to show any kind of emoton depend on the ralation between the reading and his o her previous experiences of life. A poem can make that one person feel angry , happy , sad, disappointment and others states of humor. In the lines 27-29 is easy to analyze the feelings of anger of the woman which were expressed sarcastically
"I said, Naturally,You pass the buck.
If it’s money you want You’re out of luck."
1.Poetry Voice:
ReplyDeleteIn this poem, the poetry voice is not only the author. I would dare to say that the poetry voice is an inner creature enchanted by the nostalgia of the season. I believe that an author posseses many poetry voices that speaks for them. The author is constantly invaded by inner voices that are born in the dawn of a poem. For instance, I might be the author, but my poems can be spoken by inner voices that are only relieved in the process of writing an specific poem, and this voice can be gone after the poem is done because its mision has been completed. Then, as a conclusion, more than the author as a writer, the poetry voice is one of his inner voices that temporally appear but and we don't know for how long they will stay.
2. Tone:
ReplyDeleteThe tone in Langston Hughes poem is marked by indignation. The author is displeased about daily situations in which rich people behave as usurers and sent others to do their dirty job. The author rejects and repudiates the uncomfortable situation between the rent man and the madam (in which, by the way, the rent man is redeemed, because the author knows that it is not his fault).
The author shows displeasure about the unhappy circumstances in which the madam lives and how she is urgently demanded to pay even though the owner of the house has not executed what has been promised.
"I said, Listen
Before I’d pay
I’d go to Hades
And rot away!
The sink is broke,
The water don’t run,
And you ain’t done a
thing
You promised to’ve
done."
Mood:
After reading the poem I felt revolutionary and hopeful. The reason is the attitute of the rent man.
"He said, Madam,
I ain’t pleased!
I said, Neither am I.
So we agrees!"
The first step to make a change is to feel dissatisfied about something. At the end of the poem, the rent man understood what the madam has been trough and he showed empathy. This is what we all citizens are supposed to feel about the abuses we see every day. I am sure that I will always be a revolutionary since I will never feel satisfied if somebody else is being abused.
The Eagle by E. E. Cummings.
ReplyDeleteThe tone of Cummings poem is inspiration. The author is admired about the prominence of the eagle. The majesty of the flying and the greatness of the wide pinions slicing the clouds are the author’s motivation to dedicate a whole poem to this wonderful bird. The author is passionate about the freedom in which the eagle glides in the sky. In fact, the author is somehow invaded by envy. This matchless freedom is yearned for the author, and he releases that desire transcribing his experience into a poem. The main objective is to transmit that astonishing experience to the reader. The author is clearly fascinated by the nature of the creature and how this delightful scene awoke his inner wings, and now he hungers to awake the reader’s wings with his poem. Also, the landscape captivates the author’s heart, because that stunning sight is ally with the eagle. The author attitude is manifested by inspiration and the eagerness to transmit that encouragement to the reader. The author sighs and says: “I wish I was an eagle”.
The scene replies him by itself: “Be an eagle”.